A lone warrior searching for his destiny…a tribe of lost children waiting for a hero…in a world battling to survive, they face a woman determined to rule. The following debate may not be as exciting as a duel to the death in the Thunderdome, but for all of you folks following the 9/11 conspiracy theories, this is a must see. A show called Democracy Now! held a debate between the producers of the popular internet video ‘Loose Change’ and the editors of the Popular Mechanics book ‘Debunking 9/11 Myths’. Although I do have an interest in 9/11 conspiracy theories, i’ve never really truly believed half of the theories some folks put forth. I think some of the questions are interesting to say the least, but usually they’re being asked in horribly aggressive and one sided ways by people who are in no way qualified to lead an investigation into one of the most horrible terrorist attacks of all time. I’m guessing this interview came on the heels of the release of the Popular Mechanics book seeing as it apparently aired last September, however I think it’s sort of relevant now thanks to the news that Charlie Sheen would be narrating a final version of ‘Loose Change’ which will be officially distributed by Magnolia Pictures. I’ve seen the internet video and i’ve read the Popular Mechanics book, and I still have to say that the immaturity and aggressive attitudes of Dylan Avery and Jason Bermas still turns me off. Check out the following interview clips and judge for yourself.
Video: 9/11 Debate: Loose Change vs. Popular Mechanics pt. 1
Video: 9/11 Debate: Loose Change vs. Popular Mechanics pt. 2
Video: 9/11 Debate: Loose Change vs. Popular Mechanics pt. 3
Video: 9/11 Debate: Loose Change vs. Popular Mechanics pt. 4
Video: 9/11 Debate: Loose Change vs. Popular Mechanics pt. 5
Hilarious opening to the show. Best host ever.
These videos are good and worth your time. Obviously when you are a younger person debating an older person, there is a certain tension, and it’s very easy to think that you are not being taken seriously, which could explain some of the childish behavior. However, I think when you are on TV you owe it to yourself, and to your noble cause of uncovering the horrible truth, to act respectable, and prove your faith in the argument by stating it, instead of calling your opponents liars and snickering when they calmly relay facts to you and the audience. Seriously that black guy got so annoying at the end that I wanted to slap him.
Unfortunate that both sides had to resort to name calling, strawman arguments and drawing to authority.
I think the Popular mechanics jibe about holocaust deniers and creationists was particularly telling: they have made up their mind on the issue and are just out to discredit the other side.
Then again, the loose change guys didn’t fare that much better. Calling somebody a liar is not good form in argumentation, even if it’s true, unless you have 3rd party independent evidence that completely backs it up (i.e. not just a difference in opinion and what conclusions are drawn by each side).
Other than that, my hat is still off to all participants for entering a discussion like this.
How u guys call a cat? I call it a cat.
By the way! 911? inside job!
these Loose Change kids are absolute nutcases, I think john d is wrong, its only Avery and Bermas that exposed themselves here.
New shocking conspiracy video “Unfastened Coins” up here:
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I’d like to suggest that Bermas’ personal attacks did show a lack of self control. Obviously, this is an issue he feels strongly about. While I regret his demeanor, I still respect his and Avery’s arguments as rational and brought forward on reasonable grounds. Corroborated by video, audio, first party testimony with a stong academic and scientific body lending critical support and credibility to their cause.
It is interesting to note, that those who believe the official account always argue the same points. Namely that, not believing the official account is an insult to the victims and unpatriotic, and anyone who does not believe the position taken by the government, is somehow intellectually challenged and should seek psychiatric help.
While media does not afford the time needed to discuss such a subject in great detail, I would like to submit that the “proof is in the pudding”.
There are virtually hundreds of questions that once delved into, raise a whole list of anomalies, and impossibilities that lend an investigator to have serious doubt of the offical account.
Does anyone here have the courage to look more deeply, or will you all agree with Goon … That we’re all nutcases ??
I’m a “truther”, I live in Canada seemingly miles away. But this is a global environment, and the foreign policy adopted by the Bush regime has destabilized the middle east and has dragged my countrymen into an illegal and immoral war. One based on lies, for oil and other deviant reasons.
You say Osama did it ? Oh really ??? Why, because CBS and Fox and the President said so ??
I dare you to look, and when you see, to not turn away …
The liberty and values you so cherish are being slowly taken from you by maniacle and nefarious entities. Now you might question how I could say such a thing? I can assure you that types such as The Bilderberg’s, The Rothschilds, Rockefellers,Kissinger, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Rove and others have been around for years and have influenced your current political landscape…Only some come and go … Your amendments are under attack, a police state is looming …
Stand up American … and count the dots … look at all the connections … a good start might be to investigate career FBI Agent John O’Neill and his ironic demise … Americans hold their heros in high esteem … I trust this man will meet with your approval …
What tangled webs we weave when at first we practise to deceive …
The Loose Change guys present a good case. It appears to be a controlled demolition. Bush’s brother was in control of security. Why did the transportation secretary witness a pentagon worker talking to Rumsfeld telling him how far out the plane was? What’s that about? Why isn’t there footage from the pentagon showing a plane? It should be the most secure building in the U.S.